In this episode of MWI’s Urban Warfare Project Podcast, John Spencer is joined by retired Sgt. Maj. Joe Vega. He works for the US Army’s Asymmetric Warfare Group and is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced experts in underground warfare. He has been working on the subject since 1991.

In the conversation, you’ll hear him discuss the history of the Army’s interest in underground warfare and the current work being done to prepare the Army for subterranean operations. He also explains some of the special considerations and unique challenges that arise when soldiers have to enter underground environments.

The conversation was originally recorded during the inaugural “Subterranean Challenges in War and Peace” conference held in Herzliya, Israel in December 2019 at the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzilya with support from IDC International Radio. Special thanks to Dr. Daphne Richemond-Barak, the conference organizer, and Etai Handman, who provided technical support for the recording.

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Image credit: Capt. Scott Kuhn, US Army