In this episode of MWI’s Urban Warfare Project Podcast, John Spencer is joined by Dr. Daphne Richemond-Barak. She is an assistant professor at the Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy, and Strategy and heads the international law desk of the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism at IDC Herzliya. Most importantly to the podcast, she is the author of the book Underground Warfare and creator of the International Working Group on Subterranean Warfare.

In the conversation, Dr. Richemond-Barak discusses her research on underground warfare. She explains why subterranean environments are uniquely challenging for military forces, and why underground warfare is occurring increasingly frequently. Given the complexity of the subterranean dimension of many cities—which can include transportation networks, utility infrastructure, and a range of other underground facilities—the topic is extremely relevant to the broader subject of urban warfare.

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